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	<title>Comments on: Firefox Enterprise Article in Computerworld</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Kuo</title>
		<link>http://mike.kaply.com/2008/01/11/firefox-enterprise-article-in-computerworld/#comment-796</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Kuo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad the article was as long as it is!  Took a while for me to digest all of that.  And, btw, that was my first ever quote in a magazine. yea! :)  Anyways, now that Mitchell is not the CEO, may be things will change?  Actually, she&#039;s done a fantastic job, but I think she wants to leave while her rep is still good.  :) I would!  Btw, I just saw Thunderbird is trying to take off again.  Their users are going to be &#039;enterprise&#039; users also, so it&#039;s going to be pretty tough for them too.  After all, webmail is pretty entranched with the consumer already, and the reason TB didn&#039;t get any love is because there wasn&#039;t that many users to begin with.  Btw, I have even more detailed analysis of my download stats than what&#039;s stated in the article and the trend is &#039;interesting&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad the article was as long as it is!  Took a while for me to digest all of that.  And, btw, that was my first ever quote in a magazine. yea! <img src='http://mike.kaply.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Anyways, now that Mitchell is not the CEO, may be things will change?  Actually, she&#8217;s done a fantastic job, but I think she wants to leave while her rep is still good.  <img src='http://mike.kaply.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I would!  Btw, I just saw Thunderbird is trying to take off again.  Their users are going to be &#8216;enterprise&#8217; users also, so it&#8217;s going to be pretty tough for them too.  After all, webmail is pretty entranched with the consumer already, and the reason TB didn&#8217;t get any love is because there wasn&#8217;t that many users to begin with.  Btw, I have even more detailed analysis of my download stats than what&#8217;s stated in the article and the trend is &#8216;interesting&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxo</title>
		<link>http://mike.kaply.com/2008/01/11/firefox-enterprise-article-in-computerworld/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see Firefox support more enterprise tools as well.  I think this would greatly enhance its position in corporate environments, which would then help force website admins to switch to more standards based coding, and also help promote the free and open internet cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see Firefox support more enterprise tools as well.  I think this would greatly enhance its position in corporate environments, which would then help force website admins to switch to more standards based coding, and also help promote the free and open internet cause.</p>
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		<title>By: John Silvestri</title>
		<link>http://mike.kaply.com/2008/01/11/firefox-enterprise-article-in-computerworld/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator>John Silvestri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m incredibly disappointed in Mozilla w.r.t. MSI packages for Firefox and GP.  MSIs were discussed in the plans for 1.5. and 2.0 and completely ignored.  It looks like they&#039;ll be missed entirely in 3.0 as well.  This has put egg on my face when I&#039;ve discussed Firefox as an option for deployment.

Per /. comments, I revisited the Frontmotion page, and am actually quite impressed...it appears to have advanced greatly since I last saw it.  Still, no slight to the gentleman who pulled it all together, but I want this to come from Mozilla!  I may still look into using this, since there appears to be a decent way to handle updates, which has been a *big* holdup...IE can be readily updated through SUS, but Firefox uses it&#039;s own *cough* proprietary (but open source) system that runs as the user (utterly useless without admin rights).

If Mozilla truly wants a large market share, they need to stop ignoring enterprise users.  (And this means putting useful tools and good documentation online...not just incredibly terse, very old tools* that work after slaving away at them for weeks.)

* (Mission Control?  There&#039;s no way I&#039;m going to try and figure out how to use that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m incredibly disappointed in Mozilla w.r.t. MSI packages for Firefox and GP.  MSIs were discussed in the plans for 1.5. and 2.0 and completely ignored.  It looks like they&#8217;ll be missed entirely in 3.0 as well.  This has put egg on my face when I&#8217;ve discussed Firefox as an option for deployment.</p>
<p>Per /. comments, I revisited the Frontmotion page, and am actually quite impressed&#8230;it appears to have advanced greatly since I last saw it.  Still, no slight to the gentleman who pulled it all together, but I want this to come from Mozilla!  I may still look into using this, since there appears to be a decent way to handle updates, which has been a *big* holdup&#8230;IE can be readily updated through SUS, but Firefox uses it&#8217;s own *cough* proprietary (but open source) system that runs as the user (utterly useless without admin rights).</p>
<p>If Mozilla truly wants a large market share, they need to stop ignoring enterprise users.  (And this means putting useful tools and good documentation online&#8230;not just incredibly terse, very old tools* that work after slaving away at them for weeks.)</p>
<p>* (Mission Control?  There&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m going to try and figure out how to use that.)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://mike.kaply.com/2008/01/11/firefox-enterprise-article-in-computerworld/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I have to admit, I&#039;m probalby as well just some guy who doesn&#039;t really understand the IT in bigger companies.

Where I work, Firefox is installed on every PC, however, most versions are 1.0.7 and older. Also we arent able to use our own profile. Bookmarks Toolbar and all those tiny bits that make Firefox great can&#039;t be used here.

That&#039;s really sad because I&#039;m currently working on a Win2000 machine and only got IE5 as an alternate solution. This doesn&#039;t really make me happy.

I hope Firefox will soon be able to take care of enterprise users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I have to admit, I&#8217;m probalby as well just some guy who doesn&#8217;t really understand the IT in bigger companies.</p>
<p>Where I work, Firefox is installed on every PC, however, most versions are 1.0.7 and older. Also we arent able to use our own profile. Bookmarks Toolbar and all those tiny bits that make Firefox great can&#8217;t be used here.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s really sad because I&#8217;m currently working on a Win2000 machine and only got IE5 as an alternate solution. This doesn&#8217;t really make me happy.</p>
<p>I hope Firefox will soon be able to take care of enterprise users.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sammons</title>
		<link>http://mike.kaply.com/2008/01/11/firefox-enterprise-article-in-computerworld/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sammons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t put in half the comments I made to them either!  However, what can you do - this is the media and they wanted their story pitched in that way.  Very disappointed with the comments and attitude of Chris Hofmann, but one I have come to expect from Mozilla.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t put in half the comments I made to them either!  However, what can you do &#8211; this is the media and they wanted their story pitched in that way.  Very disappointed with the comments and attitude of Chris Hofmann, but one I have come to expect from Mozilla.</p>
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